[00:00.000 --> 00:15.840] Hello. So, one quick question for the next speakers. Can you please identify yourself [00:15.840 --> 00:22.880] towards us then? So, Karen, who's the next one? Sarah James. Sarah James. So, if you're [00:22.880 --> 00:30.840] around, then please come to Karen. So, our next speaker here is Luca Bonisi, and he will [00:30.840 --> 00:36.680] talk about one topic when I first saw what he was accomplishing there as one person. [00:36.680 --> 00:43.000] It was amazing. So, and the rest he will talk about, but yeah, it's amazing what one person [00:43.000 --> 00:54.480] was able to do there. Hello. Welcome to Fosman, and welcome to this talk. This talk is about [00:54.480 --> 01:08.440] the right to install any software on your device, on your device, and consequently, what in my [01:08.440 --> 01:22.520] opinion is an unlawful behavior to install, to pre-install software on PC that you normally [01:22.520 --> 01:36.560] install both in your device. Specifically, this software, proprietary software, that are Windows [01:36.560 --> 01:55.520] and Office. I briefly introduced myself. Okay, the images. Sorry. Because the images are missing. [02:06.560 --> 02:22.520] Okay, maybe we can do full screen. Sorry. [02:22.520 --> 02:51.520] Okay. And yes, display, display, how to make a single display. [02:51.520 --> 03:16.880] Okay. Very good. Okay. I introduced myself. My name is Luca Bonisi. I came from Italy. [03:16.880 --> 03:27.400] I am, my main job is developing firmware of electronic devices. And I also support some [03:27.400 --> 03:36.240] school and small office with free software, especially one school that I defined a free [03:36.240 --> 03:45.000] software school where all teachers and students are using free software. I have some hobbies [03:45.000 --> 03:54.640] that are always related to free software. I do video, I am, I am, I do video technicians [03:54.640 --> 04:06.880] where I use a board, Jack, Jamil, Sinaldana, Cappadena live. I play guitar and piano. And [04:06.880 --> 04:18.760] I use Rose Garden as a media player to record from piano. I like to observe celestial objects [04:18.760 --> 04:31.040] like the ISS. This image is the ISS, photographed by me with a normal camera. And I built a [04:31.040 --> 04:48.400] 3D printer and I use them mainly for repairing or so forth. I make some free software project [04:48.400 --> 04:58.560] or activity. One is to make a chart on the text of songs since I play piano and guitar [04:58.560 --> 05:06.800] and transpose it automatically. Another is I'm the maintainer of the unofficial porting [05:06.800 --> 05:19.000] of Slackware and Linux distribution for many platform and CPUs. A project that I just started [05:19.000 --> 05:30.320] is to free your Android TV box. I bought cheap Android TV box and I installed Linux to be [05:30.320 --> 05:41.520] used as a general purpose devices. And I am a volunteer of NFSV as a translator. For [05:41.520 --> 05:52.600] NFSV, I built this project that was built in Perl, a language that may be not so used [05:52.600 --> 06:05.400] but I love it. And I built this program to help translate NFSV, to help translation in [06:05.400 --> 06:14.600] the NFSV, the translation process so the translator has not to care about the HTML formatting [06:14.600 --> 06:31.000] and so on. I contribute also at this fantastic book. I mean I maintain the repository of [06:31.000 --> 06:38.360] this free software book. Free software means that this book is distributed with a free [06:38.360 --> 06:53.680] license. And it was translated in five languages actually. German, Ukrainian, Italian, Arabic [06:53.680 --> 07:03.360] and English. The Italian book is not yet published but we wish it will be soon published. And [07:03.360 --> 07:13.040] if you like this book, you can attend the reading of the book this evening at 6 p.m. [07:13.040 --> 07:25.840] and Matias will be the reader, I think. Bonus hobby, I make ice creams. Since the book [07:25.840 --> 07:35.880] talks also about ice cream, it is very related to my hobby. And if you are curious, we will [07:35.880 --> 07:45.880] go to Ubitur this evening. In this presentation, you will find many illustrations like the one [07:45.880 --> 07:53.480] on the right that come from the book. So I sponsor a little bit the book. Okay, we start [07:53.480 --> 08:12.600] with the presentation. We have two different contracts. One is for the hardware and one [08:12.600 --> 08:21.000] is for the software. This contract cannot be joined together. You cannot force to join [08:21.000 --> 08:37.400] the two contracts and to force to give back also the hardware if you ask for the refund. [08:37.400 --> 08:50.440] Because the hardware contract is a sales and purchase agreement. And you become the ownership [08:50.440 --> 08:59.080] of the product or your PC of the product. And nobody can force you to do what you don't [08:59.080 --> 09:10.720] want to do. Instead, the software is a license agreement. You have a right to use the software [09:10.720 --> 09:20.880] under some conditions that for proprietary software, like Windows and Office, are limitations. [09:20.880 --> 09:36.640] Instead, for free software, are freedoms. I talk about device neutrality because you [09:36.640 --> 09:52.320] have the right to choose to install what software you like. Also by installing free software [09:52.320 --> 10:00.120] on your device, you gain the sovereign of your device. Properties software, you don't [10:00.120 --> 10:10.640] know what proprietary software make on your device. What proprietary software connect to [10:10.640 --> 10:23.680] some site that you don't know. Using running free software can overcome software obsolescence. [10:23.680 --> 10:31.920] Because especially with the new version of proprietary software, you are forced to change [10:31.920 --> 10:38.960] your hardware because the new version of proprietary software doesn't run on all the hardware. [10:38.960 --> 10:48.360] Instead, for free software, you can customize like I do with the two boxes and run also [10:48.360 --> 10:57.680] on lower-end devices. And in this way, you extend the hardware lifetime and also you [10:57.680 --> 11:08.720] reduce the electronic impact of the worst. There is also an open letter that the Free [11:08.720 --> 11:22.480] Software Foundation Europe asked to sign for the right to install any software on a device. [11:22.480 --> 11:30.480] The link is this one. Maybe we have a label later. And Free Software Foundation Europe [11:30.480 --> 11:43.240] asked to the European Parliament and Commission and also to public administration to be able [11:43.240 --> 12:02.080] that every device should be independent from the software it runs because using open standards [12:02.080 --> 12:10.960] and open interfaces. This is related to our work because sometimes hardware manufacturers [12:10.960 --> 12:22.480] use this proprietary interface that limits the possibility to use some feature of your [12:22.480 --> 12:36.920] device. Okay, we come first of all technical address. Manufacturers say this is real what [12:36.920 --> 12:45.800] Microsoft says from a device I purchase for the laptop surface I purchase. Microsoft says [12:45.800 --> 12:53.400] that the device would not work properly with other operating systems and they are not supported. [12:53.400 --> 13:06.400] This is said by Microsoft. And this is true because my laptop surface, the touch screen [13:06.400 --> 13:14.120] doesn't work. The webcam doesn't work with new links due to the proprietary interface [13:14.120 --> 13:22.720] of this device. Also, installing the front-stretched new links is not straightforward because [13:22.720 --> 13:31.880] the keyboard and the touchpad doesn't work if you don't build the customizes kernel. [13:31.880 --> 13:40.520] Also, the drivers for the keyboard and the touchpad are not in the main line. But okay, [13:40.520 --> 13:56.680] you can compile and then it works. And the manufacturer could also lock the boot loader. [13:56.680 --> 14:04.440] For example, Microsoft with ARM devices and Windows 8 lock the secure boot in a way that [14:04.440 --> 14:12.440] you cannot install software different than Microsoft Windows. So the device is not really [14:12.440 --> 14:23.280] your because you can only run software certified by another party. [14:23.280 --> 14:33.960] When we come to legal level, manufacturers often say that even if the license say that [14:33.960 --> 14:42.800] you must contact the manufacturers, the manufacturer says that you have to ask the review to the [14:42.800 --> 14:50.000] vendor or to Microsoft. But this is not true because the license agreement says that you [14:50.000 --> 15:02.680] have to contact the manufacturer. Manufacturer says that you must also return the PC. So you [15:02.680 --> 15:12.920] should have all the refund of all PC, both PC and the software. In fact, you can't have [15:12.920 --> 15:22.080] only the software refund. Manufacturer set a very little time span to ask for the refund, [15:22.080 --> 15:33.360] usually only 30 days. Manufacturer says that you must prove you refuse the license. But [15:33.360 --> 15:40.160] it is impossible to prove you refuse the license because when you start the first time Windows, [15:40.160 --> 15:51.000] you have only one button, accept. You cannot even power down the PC. Especially if it is [15:51.000 --> 15:57.120] a laptop, it could be a problem because the battery is integrated, usually integrated, [15:57.120 --> 16:02.840] and you cannot show power off the PC if you don't know that you have to press the power [16:02.840 --> 16:15.360] button for that same cost. Recently, a factory has switched their policy and said that you [16:15.360 --> 16:24.520] must return the PC to their laboratory because you must remove the product that is the information [16:24.520 --> 16:38.440] about the Windows license stored in the BIOS. Manufacturers set a price by your own, not [16:38.440 --> 16:51.880] the market price of the Windows license. When you first run the PC to see the license [16:51.880 --> 17:00.480] agreement, because to refuse the license agreement, you have to see the license agreement. With [17:00.480 --> 17:07.920] the latest Windows session, it is mandatory to connect your PC to the Internet before [17:07.920 --> 17:19.080] viewing the license agreement. I think this could be not compliant to the GDPR because [17:19.080 --> 17:29.760] your PC sends information to manufacturers and to Microsoft sites without your explicit [17:29.760 --> 17:37.800] agreement. There is no refuse button as I already said, and you cannot install a different [17:37.800 --> 17:50.320] license if you remove Windows and you download the Microsoft Windows from Microsoft website [17:50.320 --> 17:55.920] and you want to install a full license or also the gratis license because Windows is [17:55.920 --> 18:02.000] gratis. This is only a limitation that you cannot customize the toolbar. You cannot do [18:02.000 --> 18:08.600] it because when you install the version you downloaded from the Internet, it looks for [18:08.600 --> 18:18.720] the product key. So you are in your search circuits. Okay, very briefly cases of refuelling [18:18.720 --> 18:33.000] in Italy. There was a case in 2005 against HP. The case came to the Supreme Court of [18:33.000 --> 18:51.400] Italy and that said the refund must be given. It's about nine years, it's last to all the [18:51.400 --> 19:08.520] SQL. The second case is similar. It takes also nine years. It's very similar. And this [19:08.520 --> 19:29.520] case is regarding this PC. And I repressed the refund in 2018. Lenovo refused categorically [19:29.520 --> 19:39.400] the refund on the software. They asked that they say that I have to return also the PC. [19:39.400 --> 19:50.240] But I filed a court case by myself without a lawyer initially because from my side it [19:50.240 --> 20:06.720] was clear that Lenovo has won. But Lenovo introduced artificial complexity so that I [20:06.720 --> 20:14.240] cannot continue without a lawyer. So I asked for a lawyer. I win the first grade low seat [20:14.240 --> 20:22.120] but Lenovo immediately filed the second grade, the appeal, the second grade low seat. And [20:22.120 --> 20:36.400] they lost the second grade but the judge of Monza Kurt imposed to Lenovo a punitive damages [20:36.400 --> 20:52.160] of 20,000 euros because they use the legal instruments with bad fate without any valid [20:52.160 --> 21:09.280] reason. Okay, after these cases, I requested also other reasons refund. The case was simpler [21:09.280 --> 21:19.480] but not so easy. Asher, for example, asked to return the PC to remove the product K. [21:19.480 --> 21:30.840] And in this case, since I have some excessive front end, I go with the bike to bring my [21:30.840 --> 21:43.640] PC to Asher. There are also other cases, one with Microsoft as I already said. One with [21:43.640 --> 21:59.080] HP. I filed a court case against HP. They lost the court case. But this case, the judge [21:59.080 --> 22:09.640] does not recognize to me the legal fee. So the balance was the same. I lost what I gained [22:09.640 --> 22:25.280] from the refund. Other cases, okay. This is very interesting the last year with Asher [22:25.280 --> 22:32.640] because when I asked to Asher, this time I need the PC immediately so I cannot wait to [22:32.640 --> 22:44.360] send the PC to Asher and to give it back. And Asher said that it was Microsoft that asked [22:44.360 --> 22:55.320] to send the PC to the manufacturer to remove the product K. Then I filed a court case but [22:55.320 --> 23:12.320] it was stopped by Asher before reaching the first year. So they gave me 129 euros. Latest [23:12.320 --> 23:23.320] case against Lenovo that was terminated three days ago. Lenovo says again that you must [23:23.320 --> 23:33.880] return the PC to the manufacturer and they say that they are not satisfied by the license. [23:33.880 --> 23:40.320] The license they propose, they are not satisfied by the license, they themselves propose. So [23:40.320 --> 23:55.320] it is not very coherent. Okay. Asking for the phone, I go very quickly. You have to power [23:55.320 --> 24:02.320] on the PC, you have to read the license, contact the manufacturer, send email and certified [24:02.320 --> 24:14.320] mail in Italy. And you have to be very patient because many mails you have to send before [24:14.320 --> 24:25.320] requesting the refund, before having the refund. But you will have the refund. Okay. One important [24:25.320 --> 24:36.320] thing is that manufacturers artificially increase the cost of the PC with the mandatory payment [24:36.320 --> 24:48.320] to Microsoft. I think that if you obtain the refund, you have to give part of the refund [24:48.320 --> 24:58.320] to some free software organization. I give all 20,000 euros to this association. And [24:58.320 --> 25:12.320] if you want to donate, you can go to the link down. And if you can support the free software [25:12.320 --> 25:19.320] they value the work. Thank you. [25:19.320 --> 25:42.320] Hello. Is this working now? I think the main problem with this mic is the pickup on it is [25:42.320 --> 25:49.320] substantially lower than the pickup on that.