[00:00.000 --> 00:13.720]  Hello, everyone. So we have here Benjamin Jamie who will be sharing should there be
[00:13.720 --> 00:19.440]  a standard and Libra localization. Ideas on how to make it easy for translators to contribute
[00:19.440 --> 00:28.180]  to any FOSS project they like. Thank you, Benjamin.
[00:28.180 --> 00:37.920]  Thank you for the applause. I didn't deserve that yet, definitely. Thank you for being
[00:37.920 --> 00:45.040]  in such a large count here. So I'm Benjamin. I work in WebLate. I do the talking there
[00:45.040 --> 00:53.880]  and you can also meet Michael in this lovely hoodie here and he's the mind behind the code
[00:53.880 --> 01:00.800]  and everything and the founder. I won't be talking much about WebLate here. That's the
[01:00.800 --> 01:05.640]  talk tomorrow in translation's dev room. Here I would like to share a story and kick
[01:05.640 --> 01:12.840]  off something probably that could become a standard in Libra localization because at
[01:12.840 --> 01:21.200]  the moment it's nothing like that there. At first I would like to talk a short start
[01:21.200 --> 01:28.040]  of WebLate story. It doesn't start like a masterminded start-up plan that will get a
[01:28.040 --> 01:33.040]  lot of money and conquer the world of the localization. No, that's other companies.
[01:33.040 --> 01:38.720]  We are Libra software from the start and Michael actually started it when he was working at
[01:38.720 --> 01:47.440]  SUSE and now SUSE people are very proud that they started it during the SUSE hack week 12
[01:47.440 --> 02:00.080]  years ago. Sorry, 11 years ago. And for a long time this is the office. It was actually
[02:00.080 --> 02:07.160]  the office at the top of the building of those large concrete buildings you have around the
[02:07.160 --> 02:16.040]  Czech Republic built in socialism and when you needed an elevator there, there was those
[02:16.040 --> 02:21.600]  like small on top of the building blocks where you put all the machinery for your elevator
[02:21.600 --> 02:27.440]  but it's not needed now so all the machinery is downstairs in the shaft and Michael had
[02:27.440 --> 02:32.560]  his office on the top of the building and it's like three to four meters or something
[02:32.560 --> 02:40.240]  like that and that's how he started it and it was not aimed to do something that will
[02:40.240 --> 02:51.480]  be masterminded and well prepared for all the use cases. It was just in the start the
[02:51.480 --> 02:58.120]  use case that Michael wanted something better than PUTL which was a very popular tool but
[02:58.120 --> 03:04.440]  no longer maintained and something that's very tightly integrated with this version
[03:04.440 --> 03:09.840]  control system so you don't have to do much of the manual work and you are a developer
[03:09.840 --> 03:13.680]  so you connect Weblight to your version control system and it just works. You don't have to
[03:13.680 --> 03:21.320]  care about anything and then everything is in the editor and you know localization editors
[03:21.320 --> 03:32.560]  from Weblight and from other similar tools and then more and more big open source projects
[03:32.560 --> 03:38.880]  and some commercial companies went to ask Michael, hey, we would like to use it. Can
[03:38.880 --> 03:48.600]  we pay you for supporting it and yeah that's how Weblight started getting bigger and these
[03:48.600 --> 04:00.960]  days there are large or small Libre projects that are using Weblight and oh sorry I forgot
[04:00.960 --> 04:11.240]  to put a pen pod logo there. We'll do tomorrow but there is Calidas and more and more Libre
[04:11.240 --> 04:20.840]  projects started using it and it became some sort of a go for tool and then Fedora came
[04:20.840 --> 04:27.400]  I think three years back to us and migrated all their stuff from Xanata from their original
[04:27.400 --> 04:33.680]  platform they created to Weblight because Xanata was like we don't have time for that,
[04:33.680 --> 04:42.240]  that's not our core of business so we won't use Weblight and that's how we realized that
[04:42.240 --> 04:51.360]  this is maybe the thing that will be happening more and it became our responsibility. We
[04:51.360 --> 04:57.560]  took very seriously to give the tool to the communities that they can use happily and
[04:57.560 --> 05:05.240]  they can contribute to but it's still just one platform. It's Weblight and we created
[05:05.240 --> 05:12.560]  last year a page called Discover Weblight so if you are on a hosted Weblight, if you
[05:12.560 --> 05:17.560]  have your projects on a hosted Weblight which is the largest instance of Weblight on the
[05:17.560 --> 05:23.160]  internet it's easy to search there and it will be even easier throughout this year because
[05:23.160 --> 05:35.440]  of the development and if you host yourself your instance we wanted to give the users
[05:35.440 --> 05:42.480]  a place where they can come and search through all the Weblight instances that are open to
[05:42.480 --> 05:49.360]  contribute to this page so at this point if the project is using Weblight you have this
[05:49.360 --> 05:55.120]  place and you can search for your project name let's say Benpot and you will be guided
[05:55.120 --> 06:00.400]  to the right place and you can contribute to the localizations there but what about
[06:00.400 --> 06:07.520]  if the project because there are so many projects in Libra world that are not using Weblight
[06:07.520 --> 06:13.080]  yet or they want to stick with different tool because it's always your choice what do you
[06:13.080 --> 06:30.680]  use in your community. Sorry. So there became an idea and I think two years back and that's
[06:30.680 --> 06:36.680]  really important to say the time frame I was speaking with Dwayne. Dwayne is a wonderful
[06:36.680 --> 06:45.000]  person author of Translate Toolkit which is one of the core component for that Weblight
[06:45.000 --> 06:54.840]  uses to work with translation files and Dwayne is very talkative like I am so we were talking
[06:54.840 --> 07:02.560]  a lot and then I told him yeah and maybe there should be a way for someone that wants to
[07:02.560 --> 07:10.040]  contribute to Libra software like one place possibly federated because so it's not in
[07:10.040 --> 07:17.600]  one central place where I as a translator of Libra software that's not technically
[07:17.600 --> 07:23.440]  savvy and I want to contribute the time to the project of my choice but I don't want
[07:23.440 --> 07:32.680]  to search through readme's and wiki's because every project has its own different way or
[07:32.680 --> 07:38.800]  there is no information and you have to really dig hard to find it or if you are at Fosdem
[07:38.800 --> 07:47.480]  you can walk around the booths and see a little bit like a little advertisement or small stand
[07:47.480 --> 07:55.680]  that says this project is localized on Weblight but if you are in the online world you are
[07:55.680 --> 08:00.920]  you will spend usually a lot of time to find where is the right place to localize your
[08:00.920 --> 08:06.840]  favorite software and I told that to Dwayne and Dwayne said oh yeah I had that idea a
[08:06.840 --> 08:14.760]  while before and I have it very roughly specified and we were talking more and then he sent
[08:14.760 --> 08:24.200]  like nine pages long nice specification of how it could look like and how it could work
[08:24.200 --> 08:30.000]  and there are so many other features that we would like to have there but that was two
[08:30.000 --> 08:43.640]  years ago and nothing happened because there is no time to do that in Weblight team and
[08:43.640 --> 08:49.920]  it should be a community thing it shouldn't be something that Weblight says this is the
[08:49.920 --> 08:55.560]  thing how you should do it and everybody should use it it can be like that but we are at Fosdem
[08:55.560 --> 09:03.400]  there are so many wonderfully skilled people that may be interested in not only helping
[09:03.400 --> 09:11.540]  with the actual development but also sharing their ideas and maybe they because it's such
[09:11.540 --> 09:18.720]  obvious thing that's missing maybe there are so many people that already have similar ideas
[09:18.720 --> 09:26.280]  or some kind of specification and I would like to use this talk if you have an idea
[09:26.280 --> 09:32.520]  I just want to kick it off we are not working on it yet we just want to connect we want
[09:32.520 --> 09:40.160]  to discuss and maybe in a year on next Fosdem we will have something like that and a lot
[09:40.160 --> 09:49.640]  of projects could use that or every project on Fosdem and it shouldn't be just about
[09:49.640 --> 09:56.600]  Weblight it should be maybe a file like you have a license file in your repository or
[09:56.600 --> 10:05.080]  a readme file that can be indexed by some tool so if I want to have an instance a server
[10:05.080 --> 10:12.800]  where I could guide let's say I'm a localization lab or some other lovely group of people that
[10:12.800 --> 10:18.620]  wants to localize open source software they can use some kind of tool put it on their
[10:18.620 --> 10:25.000]  website on their own server and tell if you have your time select language you want to
[10:25.000 --> 10:34.520]  contribute to and find your project and this might should index those readme's or translation
[10:34.520 --> 10:44.480]  md files from not only github and gitlab but probably more and more can it be done probably
[10:44.480 --> 10:50.040]  yes it has it will have some limits it probably won't scan all the repositories in the world
[10:50.040 --> 10:57.120]  that's not possible but maybe we can make something bigger than discover Weblight that's
[10:57.120 --> 11:08.400]  universal use for everyone now what should they do is to guide the translator to the
[11:08.400 --> 11:14.920]  right platform to the right place because if I'm a translator I don't and I don't know
[11:14.920 --> 11:22.480]  all the technical way of the localization which can be make easier by localization management
[11:22.480 --> 11:33.480]  software like Weblight I just want to translate my hello to hello and that's it and it should
[11:33.480 --> 11:40.160]  be unified so everybody can use it it should be possible to index it somehow to search
[11:40.160 --> 11:48.640]  through it and yeah that's that's a start and probably there is much more that it should
[11:48.640 --> 11:58.280]  do it but in a started this would be nice and yeah let's discuss if you go not right
[11:58.280 --> 12:04.560]  now because I have to add a link once I finish the talk but this is the place where you can
[12:04.560 --> 12:12.640]  go and search through Weblight schedule I just double check yeah it's right there is
[12:12.640 --> 12:19.280]  no miss click so if you go there you can see all the schedule all the plans we as Weblight
[12:19.280 --> 12:25.800]  have for this for them I will add there a link to the discussion and you can join you
[12:25.800 --> 12:33.640]  can share it with your friends that are interested in such things and maybe we will come up with
[12:33.640 --> 12:43.160]  something interesting for every possible translator in the Libre community or in ideal way this
[12:43.160 --> 12:54.880]  tool or this localization file or translation and whatever we will call it can do can welcome
[12:54.880 --> 13:03.240]  you translators that don't feel I'm a translator and then don't know how to get there maybe
[13:03.240 --> 13:11.920]  to make it easy for everyone so that's it that's what I wanted to share with you and
[13:11.920 --> 13:21.120]  yeah I'm interested in what do you think maybe we still have three minutes so we can talk
[13:21.120 --> 13:30.880]  something right now you can also if you go to that link you can also find our bio stickers
[13:30.880 --> 13:37.000]  t-shirts and yeah other things and you can share your ideas there about Weblight and
[13:37.000 --> 13:43.080]  what we should include and if you don't like something just come there and tell us or you
[13:43.080 --> 13:51.080]  can join the online discussion that will be ready in a few minutes and yeah thank you
[13:51.080 --> 13:57.320]  for your attention and if anybody has a question or anything just raise your hand or come here
[13:57.320 --> 14:01.760]  and tell it to us thank you for your time and injera for them