The talk at the FOSDEM conference discussed the concept of European open source. The speakers debated whether European open source is a distinct phenomenon or if it is simply open source developed in Europe. They discussed the importance of supporting European organizations, companies, and universities in contributing to and utilizing open source software. The talk also touched on the need to involve larger European companies, such as automotive and aircraft companies, in open source projects. The speakers recognized the importance of an industry strategy for open source in Europe and the need to fund and support critical open source projects. They emphasized the need for better education and awareness of open source in Europe and discussed the challenges of governance and maintaining control over open source projects developed in Europe. They also highlighted the potential risks of dependence on non-European actors and the need for European expertise in open source. Overall, the talk aimed to foster a discussion about the concept of European open source and its implications for the European open source community.