[00:00.000 --> 00:11.280] First, some disclaimers about this presentation. [00:11.280 --> 00:16.600] We will have some Babelfish effects here, because some things I can't really translate [00:16.600 --> 00:22.960] from my natural or my German language. [00:22.960 --> 00:23.960] But this is not my fault. [00:23.960 --> 00:28.320] This is your Babelfish defect. [00:28.640 --> 00:38.840] I like to wrap up things, like I did it on the Matrix Community Summit in August 2022 [00:38.840 --> 00:42.480] in Berlin at the sea base. [00:42.480 --> 00:47.280] This means actually I try to get information and bring it all together. [00:47.280 --> 00:54.200] This has some negative effects, because I just finished my presentation two minutes [00:54.200 --> 00:57.120] ago, because I had to put all the stuff in. [00:57.120 --> 01:05.400] So the presentation itself will be chaotic, and the slides of the presentation as well. [01:05.400 --> 01:08.640] Then it should be an interactive session here. [01:08.640 --> 01:13.040] So the last session I did at sea base, it was a bit more staged. [01:13.040 --> 01:17.960] I had a Matrix room, and there was a Matrix room, and the other person was also talking [01:17.960 --> 01:18.960] at it. [01:18.960 --> 01:25.600] But for the default was you could not write in the Matrix room, but it was possible to [01:25.600 --> 01:26.920] send reactions. [01:26.920 --> 01:32.960] So actually we had a really nice interaction with Matrix reaction in the room. [01:32.960 --> 01:37.880] So since I don't have a Matrix room now, let's try to do it in the real world. [01:37.880 --> 01:43.320] So please express a thumb up with your face, with noise, with maybe gestures. [01:43.320 --> 01:44.320] Can you just try it? [01:44.320 --> 01:45.320] Thumb up. [01:45.320 --> 01:47.320] Okay. [01:47.320 --> 01:52.520] So if you want to express something while we are talking, if you find something awesome, [01:52.520 --> 01:59.400] if you find something shit, if you miss something, just scream it, express it, because I'm trying [01:59.400 --> 02:02.120] to collect information about the Matrix universe. [02:02.120 --> 02:09.680] It's only a small part I can represent, but you have more knowledge about it. [02:09.680 --> 02:14.640] So please use this session to express where you are, what you have. [02:14.640 --> 02:16.520] It doesn't have to be consistent. [02:16.520 --> 02:19.560] It can be chaotic spread information. [02:19.560 --> 02:23.120] So and the last disclaimer is there is an elephant in the room. [02:23.120 --> 02:29.800] Maybe you have noticed when you looked at Matrix and the Internet, there's a lot of information [02:29.800 --> 02:38.160] about something Matrix, which is not the real time protocol, and it's also not the [02:38.160 --> 02:41.320] mathematics concept of Matrix. [02:41.320 --> 02:53.440] It's a movie, and I was heavily influenced by this movie, and so in 1999, I think, and [02:53.440 --> 03:04.080] so this talk is maybe a bit influenced by this, by my personal influence, in influence [03:04.080 --> 03:12.840] situation of this, oh, I forgot to plug in or sorry about this. [03:12.840 --> 03:20.480] And so I had always in my head something with this movie and the idea in that movie and [03:20.480 --> 03:22.880] the Matrix, the protocol. [03:22.880 --> 03:28.600] And now in 2023, we have these social networks, what are actually social networks? [03:28.600 --> 03:32.840] I would say it is a disconnected information silos. [03:32.840 --> 03:40.080] So like WhatsApp or Facebook or a forum or something like that, mostly they are not connected, [03:40.080 --> 03:52.840] but they are information silos of human cultural units, so-called means, and what does this [03:52.840 --> 03:57.340] different silos has an impact of our society on that planet? [03:57.340 --> 03:59.940] And if you really think about it, what's happening there? [03:59.940 --> 04:02.100] Who is controlling these silos? [04:02.100 --> 04:07.100] Who is in charge of the structure of the silos? [04:07.100 --> 04:13.220] Who says the policies is very different? [04:13.220 --> 04:19.900] And I think when I was looking in 1999 at this thing, there were a lot smaller impacts [04:19.900 --> 04:30.180] on the world, but now I see a lot of also machines or programs or artificial intelligence [04:30.180 --> 04:34.020] is controlling what happens in this social networks. [04:34.020 --> 04:40.020] And when you now think back on the idea of the Matrix movie, what is the world they are [04:40.020 --> 04:46.380] describing in the movie and what is the world we are living in, maybe have this in mind [04:46.380 --> 04:52.980] and also have it in mind when you think about the solution and maybe also about your role [04:52.980 --> 04:53.980] in the solution. [04:53.980 --> 05:03.980] So I want to call again to you, wake up, and oh, I was hoping that comes sound out. [05:03.980 --> 05:20.980] What's going on here? [05:20.980 --> 05:40.980] Yes, your mate, let's try does it help to go here, yes. [05:40.980 --> 06:09.980] Come on, come on, come on, come on. [06:09.980 --> 06:38.980] Come on, come on, come on. [06:39.980 --> 06:51.980] I know exactly what you mean. [06:51.980 --> 06:54.980] Let me tell you why you're here. [06:54.980 --> 06:56.980] You know something. [06:56.980 --> 07:00.980] What you know, you can't explain, but you feel it. [07:00.980 --> 07:03.980] You felt it your entire life. [07:03.980 --> 07:05.980] Something's wrong with the world. [07:05.980 --> 07:13.980] You don't know what, but it's there like a splinter in your mind driving you mad. [07:13.980 --> 07:18.980] It is this feeling that has brought you to me. [07:18.980 --> 07:26.980] You know what I'm talking about? [07:26.980 --> 07:33.980] Do you want to know what it is? [07:33.980 --> 07:34.980] It is everywhere. [07:34.980 --> 07:36.980] It is all around us. [07:36.980 --> 07:41.980] And even now in this very room, you can see it when you look out of the window. [07:41.980 --> 07:48.980] But when you turn on your television, you can feel it. [07:48.980 --> 07:59.980] When you go to church, when you pay your taxes, it is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. [07:59.980 --> 08:01.980] Is that the way it works? [08:01.980 --> 08:06.980] What truth? [08:06.980 --> 08:10.980] That you are a slave. [08:10.980 --> 08:16.980] Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. [08:16.980 --> 08:27.980] A prison for your mind. [08:28.980 --> 08:35.980] No one can be told what the matrix is. [08:35.980 --> 08:47.980] You have to see it for yourself. [08:47.980 --> 08:49.980] This is your last chance. [08:49.980 --> 08:52.980] After this, there is no turning back. [08:52.980 --> 08:54.980] The blue pill, the story ends. [08:54.980 --> 08:58.980] You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to be. [08:58.980 --> 09:14.980] You take the red pill, you stay in Wanderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. [09:15.980 --> 09:35.980] Okay, thank you very much. [09:35.980 --> 09:36.980] So, do your decision. [09:36.980 --> 09:39.980] If you want to leave the room now, it's a good... [09:39.980 --> 09:40.980] Or you should stay. [09:40.980 --> 09:42.980] All right. [09:42.980 --> 09:43.980] Hello, I'm Jan. [09:43.980 --> 09:45.980] I like to explore and discover worlds. [09:45.980 --> 09:48.980] I tripped over the matrix protocol a couple of time units ago. [09:48.980 --> 09:49.980] I work for Element. [09:49.980 --> 09:51.980] I'm part of the Data Norton in Berlin. [09:51.980 --> 09:54.980] I'm also tea at Seabase from the hacker community. [09:54.980 --> 10:00.980] And I'm incurudubule at github.com. [10:00.980 --> 10:01.980] Yeah, thank you very much. [10:01.980 --> 10:07.980] And by the way, if someone can make it happen that I get my incurudubule at Matrix or back, [10:07.980 --> 10:10.980] this is not possible because of whatever. [10:10.980 --> 10:13.980] I really would like, but I can... [10:13.980 --> 10:14.980] What? [10:14.980 --> 10:16.980] So you couldn't get pink on github? [10:16.980 --> 10:17.980] I can get... [10:17.980 --> 10:18.980] I can connect. [10:18.980 --> 10:19.980] I'll come later to this. [10:19.980 --> 10:21.980] So you can't remember your nickname? [10:21.980 --> 10:22.980] Yeah. [10:22.980 --> 10:24.980] Do you use another server? [10:24.980 --> 10:29.980] I use another server, but then I'm not on matrix.org, but whatever. [10:29.980 --> 10:31.980] Of course, I'm using another server. [10:31.980 --> 10:34.980] What I'm telling you here is only the truth. [10:34.980 --> 10:39.980] It's the truth from a very specific point in time from, I call it now. [10:39.980 --> 10:43.980] This is, of course, only through the limited access of information I have, [10:43.980 --> 10:48.980] and maybe some of them is not true for you or for someone else. [10:48.980 --> 10:50.980] So I share the view from... [10:50.980 --> 10:52.980] I share a view, and this is from mine. [10:52.980 --> 10:57.980] Regarding to the matrix problem in the movie, there is this mission of unplug the people [10:57.980 --> 10:59.980] and get them into the reality. [10:59.980 --> 11:08.980] So out of their silo virtual worlds where they are in there and get sucked out [11:08.980 --> 11:11.980] or the money, no, it was not money. [11:11.980 --> 11:13.980] It was energy. [11:13.980 --> 11:15.980] So get them out. [11:15.980 --> 11:17.980] How to unplug them? [11:17.980 --> 11:21.980] I think this is actually something what a client would do. [11:21.980 --> 11:25.980] And I was looking at a lot of clients in the last years, [11:25.980 --> 11:28.980] and one which impressed me was GOMOX. [11:28.980 --> 11:31.980] So I'm quite sure you know a lot of clients. [11:31.980 --> 11:33.980] So I don't want to list them all. [11:33.980 --> 11:38.980] I just want to list them what I had in mind. [11:38.980 --> 11:40.980] So GOMOX is a nice command line client. [11:40.980 --> 11:43.980] It's really fast, and it's for simple things. [11:43.980 --> 11:45.980] I really like to use it, and I used it on October. [11:45.980 --> 11:48.980] There was in October the... [11:48.980 --> 11:51.980] October, other client October initiatives. [11:51.980 --> 11:55.980] So using another client than the usual client on matrix. [11:55.980 --> 11:59.980] And it was quite fun, but I switched back to my default client, [11:59.980 --> 12:06.980] or to my default clients, which is actually elementary chat and hydrogen, [12:06.980 --> 12:10.980] and on the phone also fluffy chat. [12:10.980 --> 12:12.980] So but give GOMOX a try. [12:12.980 --> 12:14.980] And then there's another client. [12:14.980 --> 12:18.980] I also want to mention this one because it has a lot of potential. [12:18.980 --> 12:22.980] It's not a Polish client here, but it came up in the last year. [12:22.980 --> 12:24.980] It's called Thunderbird. [12:24.980 --> 12:28.980] Does anyone know Thunderbird? [12:28.980 --> 12:32.980] Okay, so maybe one of you is one of the 20 million users, [12:32.980 --> 12:35.980] or 25 million users, something around that, [12:35.980 --> 12:38.980] which are out there, which also using this matrix client, [12:38.980 --> 12:41.980] but mostly not for matrix. [12:41.980 --> 12:43.980] But there's a lot of potential in it, [12:43.980 --> 12:46.980] especially because they also have these... [12:47.980 --> 12:52.980] They're using it already for getting personal information in and out. [12:52.980 --> 12:55.980] Also like calendaring stuff. [12:55.980 --> 12:58.980] Email, maybe you've heard of this protocol. [12:58.980 --> 13:01.980] It's a replacement of Briefe. [13:01.980 --> 13:04.980] So yeah, so Thunderbird is an awesome thing. [13:04.980 --> 13:08.980] I think what happens there, maybe you should take a look at it. [13:08.980 --> 13:10.980] Let's do some interactive stuff. [13:10.980 --> 13:14.980] I count down to zero and everyone names their default matrix client. [13:14.980 --> 13:16.980] Three, two, one. [13:20.980 --> 13:22.980] Okay, next one. [13:22.980 --> 13:24.980] Connecting fragments. [13:24.980 --> 13:26.980] What was the idea here? [13:26.980 --> 13:31.980] Oh yes, maybe you know this little plant guy, whatever. [13:31.980 --> 13:34.980] Cactus is a nice thing. [13:34.980 --> 13:38.980] I can maybe click here and give you a short demo. [13:38.980 --> 13:42.980] It's in the world there, so it looks like a forum, [13:42.980 --> 13:45.980] or maybe there is also an article on top or something. [13:45.980 --> 13:50.980] But here you have a small window where the people in this silo [13:50.980 --> 13:56.980] can put in information and it already goes into the reality [13:56.980 --> 13:59.980] when we think in the movie terms. [13:59.980 --> 14:03.980] And then from there it can be also go in other silos. [14:03.980 --> 14:08.980] So cactus comments is such an interesting thing. [14:08.980 --> 14:12.980] I have not really picked it up when I was watching the movie. [14:12.980 --> 14:16.980] What it could be, especially if you have an idea was cactus [14:16.980 --> 14:23.980] in the matrix movie universe is, just tell it me. [14:23.980 --> 14:25.980] Do I have to go back here? [14:25.980 --> 14:34.980] Okay, and there's also, I think it's another interesting stuff. [14:34.980 --> 14:39.980] I think most of you have just seen the presentation a couple of seconds ago. [14:39.980 --> 14:45.980] But it's in a way, I think, the same basic idea. [14:45.980 --> 14:47.980] The next one. [14:47.980 --> 14:49.980] Oh yeah, populus viewer. [14:49.980 --> 14:51.980] Who knows populus viewer? [14:51.980 --> 14:52.980] Okay, that's not a lot. [14:52.980 --> 14:54.980] I thought, okay, should I share this? [14:54.980 --> 14:57.980] I'm aware of it since ages because I know a lot about matrix. [14:57.980 --> 15:00.980] It's really nice thing is to annotate PDFs. [15:00.980 --> 15:03.980] So you have a PDF, you want to talk with people about it, [15:03.980 --> 15:07.980] but you don't want to convert it in some whatever. [15:07.980 --> 15:09.980] You just uploaded it to a channel. [15:09.980 --> 15:12.980] And then with populus viewer, you can discuss about it. [15:12.980 --> 15:15.980] Let's see if this link will work. [15:15.980 --> 15:16.980] Yeah, it works. [15:16.980 --> 15:21.980] So I already uploaded the simple PDF and then I can mark things and say, [15:21.980 --> 15:23.980] oh, okay, here, blah, blah, blah. [15:23.980 --> 15:27.980] So this is how populus viewer works. [15:27.980 --> 15:33.980] So a PDF is not really a silo because it's not really an interactive place. [15:33.980 --> 15:38.980] But here you can also, again, with the idea of putting information on it, [15:38.980 --> 15:40.980] somehow use. [15:40.980 --> 15:42.980] Is this a 10 or five minutes left? [15:42.980 --> 15:43.980] It's a 10 minutes left. [15:43.980 --> 15:44.980] All right. [15:44.980 --> 15:48.980] Then going back here and let's see what's next. [15:48.980 --> 15:49.980] Widgets, yeah. [15:49.980 --> 15:52.980] I have no idea what widgets in the Matrix movie is. [15:52.980 --> 15:56.980] But I discovered one really simple thing last year. [15:56.980 --> 16:01.980] It's just a widget with markdown on top of a room. [16:01.980 --> 16:03.980] And there's an edit button. [16:03.980 --> 16:07.980] And as an admin of the room, you can just edit it. [16:07.980 --> 16:12.980] And it's really good to just summarize or update the stuff in the room. [16:12.980 --> 16:15.980] So it's really simple, but really powerful. [16:15.980 --> 16:19.980] And I think it's a really good starting point also. [16:19.980 --> 16:24.980] If you have people and you want to enrich them with information in the room, [16:24.980 --> 16:28.980] it's better than a subscription or a description of the room [16:28.980 --> 16:32.980] because you can make pictures or a bit like into it. [16:32.980 --> 16:38.980] So it's a really good starting point to enrich the user experience of rooms with widgets, [16:38.980 --> 16:40.980] in my opinion. [16:40.980 --> 16:45.980] And there are other more richer stuff like the calendar bar camp and polls. [16:45.980 --> 16:52.980] You have maybe seen the presentation earlier on about widgets accessing the silos. [16:52.980 --> 17:00.980] So let's assume there is on this planet a place where people should have full control [17:00.980 --> 17:02.980] over their own communication. [17:02.980 --> 17:05.980] Who knows the sentence, by the way? [17:05.980 --> 17:08.980] OK, you should read your Matrix manifesto. [17:08.980 --> 17:11.980] So on matrix.org, there is a Matrix manifesto. [17:11.980 --> 17:12.980] And you should read it. [17:12.980 --> 17:17.980] And you should try to find out if you can identify yourself with it. [17:17.980 --> 17:22.980] And then what that does actually mean for what you will do with your life. [17:22.980 --> 17:30.980] But let's imagine you have, we have a place where people have full control over their own communication. [17:30.980 --> 17:36.980] And then you should first start to free yourself before you free others. [17:36.980 --> 17:40.980] I was spending, I think, 20 years with going to a lot of people saying, [17:40.980 --> 17:41.980] hey, there's this new thing. [17:41.980 --> 17:43.980] It's called IRC. [17:43.980 --> 17:45.980] You should go on it and then we can chat. [17:45.980 --> 17:50.980] And then there was this other, there was this XMPP and this AOL and this. [17:50.980 --> 17:53.980] There were a lot of social networks I jumped onto. [17:53.980 --> 17:57.980] And then I came to my friends and my real social networks. [17:57.980 --> 18:02.980] So my social context and try to get them into this silo. [18:02.980 --> 18:04.980] So I was really a slave. [18:04.980 --> 18:06.980] And then every time I thought, oh, no, I'm free. [18:06.980 --> 18:08.980] No, this is the next good network. [18:08.980 --> 18:10.980] And then I sucked them all in. [18:10.980 --> 18:14.980] I think the last one was Telegram because I was impressed by, oh, okay, [18:14.980 --> 18:18.980] they have a GPL written client and they have an open API. [18:18.980 --> 18:21.980] And it was in relation to all the other stuff so open. [18:21.980 --> 18:25.980] And maybe you have heard of Telegram is not so open, so easy to deal with. [18:25.980 --> 18:27.980] So I was again wrong. [18:27.980 --> 18:30.980] What I'm now doing is I have my matrix set up. [18:30.980 --> 18:39.980] I have my bridges and I take care that I am free and that I can communicate to the others with my avatars [18:39.980 --> 18:42.980] with my Telegram WhatsApp signal link and whatever. [18:42.980 --> 18:48.980] So I have representations of myself and I'm not influencing to come into any networks, [18:48.980 --> 18:53.980] but I stopped communicating with people which are only in my network [18:53.980 --> 18:55.980] because this is not what I was born for. [18:55.980 --> 19:00.980] This is not why I'm on this planet to decide I don't want to talk to this person [19:00.980 --> 19:03.980] because he doesn't have an iMessage account or something like this. [19:03.980 --> 19:05.980] This is really a piece of shit. [19:05.980 --> 19:11.980] And this matrix was first freeing myself is for me a really good standpoint. [19:11.980 --> 19:13.980] And then I can tell others about it. [19:13.980 --> 19:15.980] This is how I'm doing it. [19:15.980 --> 19:21.980] And I think it should not be in our life about making decisions about our communication provider. [19:21.980 --> 19:26.980] And here I took myself a bit off with puppeted bridges. [19:26.980 --> 19:30.980] I will skip this bridges stuff, but you can host the bridge by yourself. [19:30.980 --> 19:34.980] You can develop some and you can just get them hosted. [19:35.980 --> 19:40.980] Bridges itself, you can bridge a lot of different stuff. [19:40.980 --> 19:45.980] And I want to talk about Hookshot because Hookshot is awesome. [19:45.980 --> 19:48.980] Who uses Hookshot on a daily basis? [19:48.980 --> 19:54.980] Okay, this is not enough people because this is really an awesome tool [19:54.980 --> 19:58.980] or an awesome bridge to get the information from the outside world [19:58.980 --> 20:02.980] in just like an RSS feed is easy to subscribe to. [20:02.980 --> 20:07.980] You can use a lot of web services or these silo things have webhooks [20:07.980 --> 20:11.980] and you can get the webhooks pointing to your room. [20:11.980 --> 20:14.980] And then you can write little JavaScript snippets and say, [20:14.980 --> 20:20.980] okay, there's some data coming in and I take the topic and the status of the bug [20:20.980 --> 20:26.980] and send a message into the room saying this issue is closed or something like that. [20:26.980 --> 20:29.980] So it's really easy to write this transformation snippet. [20:29.980 --> 20:30.980] Please share the snippets. [20:30.980 --> 20:32.980] It's not that easy. [20:32.980 --> 20:35.980] So sometimes it's useful to use other people snippets. [20:35.980 --> 20:40.980] But so webhook is really awesome and it has an incredible feature for GitHub. [20:40.980 --> 20:41.980] It's called dynamic rooms. [20:41.980 --> 20:47.980] So you create a space representing your project and then you have your repository [20:47.980 --> 20:51.980] and then you have their issues in your repository maybe. [20:51.980 --> 20:54.980] Then for every new issue is that room created. [20:54.980 --> 20:57.980] So you have in the space a room for the issue [20:57.980 --> 21:02.980] and then maybe you have to discuss about the issue like you've write a comment on GitHub. [21:02.980 --> 21:06.980] And if Hookshot knows about you who you are on GitHub, [21:06.980 --> 21:11.980] then if you reply to that comment in that room, this is a comment on GitHub. [21:11.980 --> 21:16.980] So you don't have to go between mail notification, GitHub website, [21:16.980 --> 21:19.980] Git commit message, something like that. [21:19.980 --> 21:22.980] You can just easily do it in your matrix client [21:22.980 --> 21:26.980] and it speeds you so much up in discussions on GitHub issues. [21:26.980 --> 21:33.980] So if you work with GitHub or GitLab, check out Hookshot. [21:33.980 --> 21:36.980] Another really awesome thing. [21:36.980 --> 21:42.980] So this is my personal Matrix app of the year 2022 Postmobile. [21:42.980 --> 21:45.980] It's an email to Matrix Bridge. [21:45.980 --> 21:48.980] And yeah, okay, it's an email to Matrix Bridge. [21:48.980 --> 21:49.980] No, it's awesome. [21:49.980 --> 21:53.980] I use it with my wife for eBay Kleinanzeigen, for example. [21:53.980 --> 21:56.980] We have the subscription into a room and we can discuss about it. [21:56.980 --> 22:01.980] And if there is a message coming in and reply to the message in a thread, [22:01.980 --> 22:05.980] then it goes back to eBay Kleinanzeigen and eBay Kleinanzeigen puts it to the person, [22:05.980 --> 22:07.980] which sends the request. [22:07.980 --> 22:11.980] So it is an easy, it's a poor men's bridge to everything, [22:11.980 --> 22:13.980] which is already bridge to email. [22:13.980 --> 22:17.980] And also sometimes you want to have an email address is so easy. [22:17.980 --> 22:21.980] You just invite Postmobile bot into your room and say new mailbox, [22:21.980 --> 22:24.980] whatever at my Matrix server. [22:24.980 --> 22:27.980] And the email is instantly created. [22:27.980 --> 22:31.980] And so this is really, it's a good way if you need to use email, [22:31.980 --> 22:35.980] then you can start with Postmobile and with redirects. [22:35.980 --> 22:39.980] It's a good transition phase for yourself. [22:39.980 --> 22:40.980] Yeah, it's awesome. [22:40.980 --> 22:47.980] As I said, I will skip this, but check out Honoreed. [22:47.980 --> 22:54.980] If you want to have a simple helpdesk, but servers and services. [22:54.980 --> 22:58.980] Yeah, there's Synapse, which is forked or cloned by the Buddhist messenger [22:58.980 --> 23:00.980] in Germany at the moment. [23:00.980 --> 23:03.980] Interestingly, there's Construct, Conduit, Rocket Chat. [23:03.980 --> 23:04.980] Have you heard about this? [23:04.980 --> 23:07.980] They also want to support somehow Matrix. [23:07.980 --> 23:09.980] We will see what they already do. [23:09.980 --> 23:12.980] Stashcat, which is a security method. [23:12.980 --> 23:15.980] They also want to support Matrix for Federation. [23:15.980 --> 23:18.980] Discourse, which is something like Cactus. [23:18.980 --> 23:20.980] They also want to go for Matrix. [23:20.980 --> 23:23.980] And as I said, this is only what I observe. [23:23.980 --> 23:25.980] EJPD as well. [23:25.980 --> 23:27.980] All right. [23:27.980 --> 23:30.980] Then there are a lot of awesome providers there. [23:30.980 --> 23:33.980] If you don't want to run your server as well. [23:33.980 --> 23:36.980] Some stuff I discovered, especially for Germany, [23:36.980 --> 23:41.980] there's the host sharing EG, which is a genossenschaft for hosting. [23:41.980 --> 23:44.980] They also do not offer Matrix from the Stange. [23:44.980 --> 23:49.980] And there's also, yeah, LSTIO and EDGE and Osrocks [23:49.980 --> 23:52.980] and, of course, EMS from Element and Ungleich ZH. [23:52.980 --> 23:54.980] And I think there are others. [23:54.980 --> 23:57.980] By the way, others, I discovered these two projects. [23:57.980 --> 23:59.980] One is chatcloud.net. [23:59.980 --> 24:01.980] They offer hosted element services. [24:01.980 --> 24:02.980] I don't know about them. [24:02.980 --> 24:04.980] Is anyone here from them? [24:04.980 --> 24:05.980] Okay, no. [24:05.980 --> 24:07.980] And there's also Lux Chat. [24:07.980 --> 24:11.980] So Luxembourg is going to switch to Matrix. [24:11.980 --> 24:16.980] There are whole public sector and also people communication. [24:16.980 --> 24:18.980] I don't know about them. [24:18.980 --> 24:20.980] Is someone from them here? [24:20.980 --> 24:21.980] No. [24:21.980 --> 24:24.980] Okay. [24:24.980 --> 24:26.980] Yeah, then how to deploy the stuff. [24:26.980 --> 24:28.980] So there are different stacks to deploy. [24:28.980 --> 24:30.980] There is the EMS installer. [24:30.980 --> 24:34.980] If you have huge setups and need professional services, [24:34.980 --> 24:36.980] there is Matrix Ansible Docker Deploy, [24:36.980 --> 24:39.980] which is an awesome Docker script maintained by, [24:39.980 --> 24:44.980] I don't know, not contributed by 250 people. [24:44.980 --> 24:47.980] And it has a lot of stuff already in there. [24:47.980 --> 24:50.980] There are a lot of hand charts for some basic components [24:50.980 --> 24:53.980] and, of course, operating system packages. [24:53.980 --> 24:56.980] Is there any deployment stack you are aware of, [24:56.980 --> 24:58.980] which I haven't mentioned? [24:58.980 --> 25:01.980] There was something on NixOS. [25:01.980 --> 25:04.980] Okay, get in contact with me. [25:04.980 --> 25:07.980] Building blocks, yeah, all the SDKs. [25:07.980 --> 25:09.980] And then what's coming up next? [25:09.980 --> 25:14.980] No, this year, there will be maybe a Matrix Community Summit. [25:14.980 --> 25:17.980] I think it will be by the end of September [25:17.980 --> 25:23.980] and there will be something on the CARES Communication Camp in August. [25:23.980 --> 25:26.980] And yeah, in both cases, you want to be a part of [25:26.980 --> 25:30.980] and you want to help or volunteer, just get in contact with me. [25:30.980 --> 25:33.980] And I think then was the last presentation over [25:33.980 --> 25:35.980] and I finished my slides. [25:35.980 --> 25:37.980] Perfect.